Trump Said He Doesn’t Know Parnas — But Unearthed Recording Allegedly Shows They Talked Ukraine
President Donald Trump’s track record when it comes to telling the truth to the American people is demonstrably terrible.
On Wednesday, Trump claimed while in Davos, Switzerland, attending the World Economic Forum, that he wasn’t a liar, and that his words could be taken at face value when it came to his denial of the evidence in his Senate impeachment trial.
Comparing himself to former President Bill Clinton, Trump said that impeachment trial, which happened in the late 1990s, involved lies Clinton had told. “Now, with me, there’s no lying,” Trump said.
But Trump’s history of lying has been well-documented. According to the Washington Post, Trump lied more than 22 times per day, on average, in 2019. Since October, he’s lied more than 27 times per day.
So it should come as no surprise that Trump is caught in yet another lie, as House managers wrap up their final day of arguments in favor of indicting him in the Senate impeachment trial.
Lev Parnas, an associate of Rudy Giuliani’s, who currently serves as Trump’s personal lawyer, has said he and Trump knew each other, and what’s more that the president knew all about Parnas’s work in trying to dig up political dirt on Joe Biden in Ukraine. Trump has denied knowing Parnas, claiming he’s just a person who has taken a campaign picture or two with the president.
EXCLUSIVE: "Take her out": Recording appears to capture Pres. Trump at private dinner in 2018 saying he wants Ukrainian Amb. Marie Yovanovitch fired.@GStephanopoulos has more: https://t.co/JphMghat99 pic.twitter.com/UNV40Utvk4
— This Week (@ThisWeekABC) January 24, 2020
“Now, it’s possible I have a picture with them because I have a picture with everybody,” Trump has previously claimed.
That statement appears to be a lie. According to reporting from ABC News, newly-unearthed recordings of Trump, speaking to a group of people in April of 2018 about former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, include audio of Parnas as part of the discussion.
Parnas is not just a simple passerby in the conversation, either, as he’s heard saying directly to Trump that Yovanovitch has been badmouthing him in her offices in Kyiv.
“Get rid of her! Get her out tomorrow,” Trump’s voice apparently said in the recording. “I don’t care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. Okay? Do it.”
This indicates that, every time Trump told reporters (and by proxy the American people) that he had no connection to Parnas, it was a lie — a bald-faced one, at that, which could have major implications in the impeachment trial.
It could, for example, result in wayward GOP senators to demand that additional witnesses be heard, an issue that Trump and his allies in the Senate have been trying to avoid from happening. Parnas would likely be among those asked to speak.