Donald Trump’s attorney, Rudy Guiliani, declared on Sunday that “truth isn’t truth.” Guiliani made the comment while appearing on NBC’s Meet The Press.
When talking about evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and Russian agents, Guiliani complained that Special Counsel Robert Mueller was dragging out his investigation.
NBC host Chuck Todd asked: “Can’t you speed up Mueller’s report and can’t you have more credibility about getting Mueller’s report if you get the president to sit down with him?”
“Get the word credibility out of it. We have plenty of credibility,” Giuliani quipped. “It is a week and a half later and they have not responded to our letter. Now, don’t tell me that we’re delaying this if they are spending a week and a half getting back to us.”
“You believe this is on them?” Todd then asked the former Mayor. “That you guys have not delayed the interviewing, delayed the negotiations?”
“Yes,” Guiliani responded. “What I have to tell you is, look, I am not going to be rushed into having him testify so he gets trapped into perjury. When you tell me that, you know, he should testify because he is going to tell the truth and he shouldn’t worry, that’s silly because it’s somebody’s version of the truth. Not the truth.”
“Truth is truth,” Todd quickly pointed out
“No, it isn’t truth. Truth isn’t truth,” Giuliani added.
“Truth is a truth, Mr. Mayor,” Todd reiterated. “This is going to become a bad meme.”
“Don’t do this to me!” Giuliani said while mocking Todd’s facial expression.
“Don’t do ‘truth isn’t truth’ to me,” Todd fired back.
Here’s the strange interview: