Mary Trump Says People ‘Need to Stop Treating Donald Like He’s Normal’ Ahead of Final Presidential Debate

Mary Trump, President Donald Trump’s niece who has emerged as one of the president’s top critics, told MSNBC’s Ari Melber on Wednesday that Trump cannot be expected to behave like a rational human being or abide by debate rules that stand in his way.

Mary Trump is the author of a recent tell-all book, Too Much or Not Enough: How My Family Created the World’s Most Dangerous Man, in which she recounts what life has been like as a member of the president’s extended family.

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“People need to stop treating Donald like he’s normal, that he’s going to abide by the rules or care at all about behaving decently,” she said on The Beat. “He doesn’t. We cannot treat him like a normal candidate on a debate stage.”

Mary Trump said that the president, whom she described as “exhausting,” takes to “interrupting because I think he’s desperate,” and that “he goes into a debate or a town hall specifically with his tactic in his pocket because he knows that getting into a substantive policy discussion is disastrous for him.”

Trump’s “entire administration has been a failure from beginning to end. What could he possibly say about policy that will be to his benefit? Nothing, as far as I can see,” explained Mary Trump, a psychologist armed with a lifetime of dealing with the president.

“So,” Mary Trump continued, “he needs to interrupt. He needs to be rude. He needs to talk over other people,” she added. “And he needs to change the subject no matter how irrelevantly he does it.”

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Trump and his opponent, Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden, will face off in their second and final debate on Thursday, October 22, at 9 p.m.

Thirteen days until the election.

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