Anthony Fauci Annihilates Donald Trump’s ‘Unusual, Aberrant’ Rejection of Science
Doctor Anthony Fauci appeared on The Rachel Maddow Show for the first time on Friday night and wasted no time blasting former President Donald Trump’s “unusual, aberrant” opposition to science.
Fauci, the nation’s top infectious disease specialist, was former President Donald Trump’s chief adviser on the COVID-19 pandemic, which as of this publication has killed 424,000 Americans:
Yeah, I mean, it was such an unusual, aberrant situation, Rachel, where you had, at the very top, and you know I don’t take any great pleasure in criticizing presidential leadership or the people around the president, but we had a situation where science was distorted and or rejected and a lot of pressure was put on individuals and organizations to do things that were not directly related to what their best opinion would be vis-a-vis the science. You know, I had pressure put on me, but I resisted it, and I had to do something that was not comfortable, but I did it, and I had to be directly contradicting not only the president but some of the people around the president who were saying things that just were not consistent with the science.
Fauci said that inside The Trump Administration existed a hostile work environment:
I am not a political appointee, so you know this whole idea about, you know, ‘we’re gonna fire him’ and that kinda stuff, I mean, I didn’t want to be at odds with the president because I have a lot of respect for the office of the presidency. But there was conflict at different levels with different people and different organizations. And a lot of pressure being put on to do things that just are not compatible with the science. And I think the only way that happens is when you have leadership from the very top, and people surrounding the leadership that essentially let that happen. It’s a real aberrancy.
Trump’s “affront on science” was unprecedented and “chilling”:
I’ve been – I’ve served, now, this is my seventh administration, Rachel, and I’ve been advising administrations and presidents on both sides of the aisle, Republicans and Democrats, people with different ideologies. And even with differences in ideology, there never was this real affront on science. So it really was an aberrancy that I haven’t seen in the almost 40 years that I’ve been doing this. So it’s just one of those things that is chilling when you see it happen.
Maddow then asked Fauci if the public can expect “to hear from senior scientists and senior supervisors of these agencies on a regular basis” now that Trump is out of office.
Yes, Fauci explained, recalling that despite his best efforts, Trump “blocked” him from appearing on Maddow’s show out of personal spite:
I’ve been wanting to come on your show for months and months. You’ve been asking me to come on your show for months and months and it’s just gotten blocked. That’s, I mean, let’s call it what it is. It just got blocked, because they didn’t like how you handle things, and they didn’t want me on there. It was so clear. ‘Why would you want to go on Rachel Maddow?’ ‘Well, because I like her and she’s really good.’ ‘It doesn’t make any difference, don’t do it.’
Fauci promised that things will get better under President Joe Biden:
I don’t think you’re gonna see that now. I think you’re going to see a lot of transparency. And you know, you might not see everybody as often as you want, but you’re not gonna see deliberate holding back of good people when the press asks for them. I mean, we were assured that that’s the case. And that goes along with what you were mentioning before about different types of pressures that are put on. It was a tough situation. It really was.
Dr. Fauci on contrast in transparency between Trump and Biden admins: "I've been wanting to come on your show for months and months. You've been asking me to come on your show for months and months and it just got blocked. I mean, let's call it what it is, it just got blocked." pic.twitter.com/xs10CrvDGr
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